Hey man, I'm curious about the string
sections you've got on this tour. How easy is it to get that all together?
You're using a different section in each city, right? It can't be easy.
It isn't easy. It's been kinda tough and not every city is fortunate enough to
experience the string sections. It's because of space limitations or
availability. Half of the shows have had strings accompany us. We take a good
half hour to an hour with 'em every time we work with them on show days. They'll
go through the songs like three or four times apiece. They've got it all charted
out so it's just a matter of them getting a feel of the song. They've been
pulling it off every time we've used 'em.
Did you try some things early on in the tour that you eventually scrapped -
be it a song or a prop?
You're gonna experience things like that every time you go out on tour. Whether
we take songs out or just rearrange them, that's how that usually works. With
the props, yeah we started off with a certain visual look. As you go throughout
the tour you're gonna change things a bit to kinda simplify it all.
How is it you're incorporating a preview of Operation:Mindcrime II? Is it a
live preview, audio samples, video...
What we've put together is a video with a song that's potentially going to be on
the next release. As of right now we're really looking for a sequel to
Operation:Mindcrime. As soon as we're off stage - the last song is "Eyes Of A
Stranger" - as soon as we walk off the video comes on with the new music. It's
almost like a pseudo-encore. It's not really us performing but it's us giving
them an audio track of a song that could be on the next release with a video
behind it. We don't know if something like that has ever been done before.
You'll see Operation:Mindcrime with the roman numeral II on the monitors. The
fans get a kick outta that. There's a lot of anticipation for a sequel. I have a
lot of mixed emotions with this because there is something magical and
spiritual. There is integrity and the whole chemistry we had when we created the
first Mindcrime. To do a follow-up for that is like, do we wanna mess with the
mojo, ya know? You're gonna hear that throughout the course of the tour. Some
fans will say it takes a lot of guts to do something like that, especially with
the success of the first one. There's other fans that are saying they can't wait
for the sequel. Some fans have been waiting for the sequel ever since the first
one was released 16 years ago. It's a tough pill to swallow. All you can do is
write the best you can. We really have no control over what it's going to do
when it's released, how it's going to perform sales-wise. Hopefully it will
connect.
It really sounds like you have some hesitations to do a sequel. Did the whole
band question even doing the sequel?
We've been talking about that throughout the years. That's why it's never
happened. We all tried to figure out if that was something we wanted to do. Fans
are still wondering what happened to Mary and what happened to Nikki and Dr. X.
Were they related? It's amazing how the fans are just reaching for these
answers. Do we even want to miss with that? There's the hesitation you were
talking about. Do we really wanna approach this? Maybe it is time. It's hard to
say. We all have some mixed emotions about that. It can only help, ya know?
Was the original Mindcrime written with every intention of doing a sequel?
Did you have the answers to questions like the ones you just brought up or are
you having to think up a new story with the answers?
It's definitely like Operation:Mindcrime in the new millennium. Sonically it
could sound different. Stylistically it could sound different. We're still
trying to capture that same sort of sequel feel like they do in movies. Some
characters are gone but you'll maybe create new characters to keep the story
going. We never really anticipated doing a sequel, let alone still doing this 20
years later! Since this is happening, Mindcrime is definitely a lot more popular
now that it was when it was first released. That's interesting because there's a
whole new generation of fans being exposed to it. You've got to "Speak the
word," ya know?
I saw you guys in '90 when you had Suicidal Tendencies opening. You did a
version of Mindcrime then. What are you doing differently this time out?
Without giving too much away we have arranged some of the songs a little
differently. There are some props and live actors. You're gonna get your video
accompanying the music, too.
Since you're obviously working on Mindcrime II, how hard is it to write a
song that can be delivered to radio when you know upfront that you have to write
songs that follow a very strict story line? It can't be easy to write a song
that follows a script and make it vague enough to where you can dig the song and
not really know the story of Operation:Mindcrime.
Good question. I don't know if we've ever written songs exclusively for radio.
Perhaps it might sound like I'm full of shit! Honestly, we write what we feel.
If it connects, it connects. "Silent Lucidity" wasn't even going to be on
Empire. We just didn't feel it was gonna fit. Our producer encouraged us to put
it on there and look what it did. We had no anticipation it was gonna take off
and be in the Top 5. This time around, writing a sequel, the pressure is on.
There's more pressure now because we've created something and now we're trying
to expand on it. Before we were just writing what we felt. I don't know what to
expect but I hope our fans are open-minded. I think we've been very fortunate to
have a fan base like that so we can evolve and experiment with our music. They
allow us to do what we want to do. I hope this time around they appreciate that
as well. We not only have to create a new story line but we've got to create the
music to work alongside it. We're all up for the challenge.
So how far along are you with the songwriting process?
It's hard to say. We have quite a bit of material written. Half the material has
lyrics that we feel could be complete songs. As it always happens you'll start
to rearrange songs before you go into the studio. That's inevitable. Ever since
we've been recording it's been very rare if we've written a song that's complete
and not had to tamper with it.
Not many people take on the job of writing a concept record. I'm sure you
want to make sure the music flows well while also keeping the story in order. Do
you write the music first and piece the songs together or do you write the
lyrics first? I could be a dumbass and it doesn't even work that way!
Don't flatter yourself! I think in the past we've written music before lyrics.
Geoff might have a lyrical idea that we might have written music to. I'd say
80-90% of the time you're gonna get the music first. Since we're recording the
sequel they're gonna have to go hand-in-hand. This is an exception to what we
normally do.
Are you recording any of your current shows for a possible live DVD?
There has been talk. We were trying to organize and get everything up to speed
before this leg of the tour started but we were a little behind on
pre-production. We were trying to focus on making sure the show was gonna run
smooth. There is that possibility in January or February that we may record this
whole Operation:Mindcrime live thing. Maybe like we did before, but this will
have actors and different visuals.
There is a big difference in the band from the original Mindcrime - Chris
DeGarmo is gone. Has he been asked or is he interested in contributing to the
Mindcrime sequel?
There has been talk. Nothing has developed. It's hard to say because he stepped
out in '97. He did help write on the Tribe record. There was always that
possibility of him coming back and writing with us for the sequel. Whether it
will or not remains to be seen. I think it'd be great to bring him back because
he was part of the first Mindcrime. Stylistically it would definitely have that
cohesiveness. Mike Stone's a very talented guitar player. He's got a little
different style from what Chris had. That's not a bad thing. Maybe that's good.
Do we want to create the same style like we did in the past? It has to have it's
intensity and it's dynamics because it's 16 years later. Maybe it's not a bad
idea to write the sequel with a different guitar player.
I'm a real sucker for guitar tones. Do you think the guitar tones will be
similar to the first Mindcrime or is that the wrong thing to wish for?
For cohesiveness and to have it sound similar to the first one would be great.
You're talking about a different engineer, a different producer. It's hard to
say whether it's going to have the same sort of feel. We're doing what we can to
make that happen. I thought there was a certain style to Operation:Mindcrime. To
have that same style 16 years later...will it fit with the new styles of music
out there? Radio has changed so drastically it's a whole different world now.
It's a whole different industry now. I guess change is inevitable.
What would you like to say to your fans and the readers?
Thanks for listening. We've been around quite a few years. The fans have been so
good to us. To give us the ability to evolve, to experiment with music, has been
very amazing. We're like this band who's trying to come up with different styles
each time we release a record. That's giving us the freedom to do what we wanna
do and our fans have allowed us to do that. You can't ask for a better group
than that. Thanks for listening throughout the years.